Just not before Velious!! Some of the very first times where the raids weren't just hp/dps checks. Because there is no mention of Discord besides that line in the tome, its hard to say what happened. -passes out-

Funny, I had a pal that was still raiding EQ1 during GoD. Taelosia exists - for now - until there is further update on its fate over the 500 years. Which is the other problem between the two games, who knows what broke/sunk and what didn't when its obscure lore like this!

You could, except that if you go to the "Kunark" map, it's clearly there on the NW side of the LOIO. Some post-PoP stuff has been used, some of it hasn't; that's just the way it is.

gates of discord and omens of war were abysmal. We've seen our share of that in EQ2, but nothing as bad as the GoD mid-game changes. That said, EQ1 referred to the "Planes of Order and Discord" as the source of a wizard's power since the beginning of the game, it just never specified any further until GoD/OoW came out.

In other words, this could very easily refer to some generic chaos plane that has nothing at all to do with EQ1's post-PoP expansions. This part of Gates of Discord progression follows your completion of the three Ikkinz group trials, after which Kevren Nalavat has some more ... but are four different, LORE items. Yes, GoD had other issues, well documented and beaten until dead.

Watch out for timeline splits, as you can then have something like this result (do not read the follow-up the Principles of Time and Dimension Travel document unless you want a headache). Even after they had taken this guy down dozens of times it was still the same 25% chance of winning.

He had other complaints about certain raids bottle necking content, especially raids that were changed to be harder because the players found ways to get around certain scripts. The continent does not.... yet.

Cusashorn wrote:

Coniaric wrote:

This subject had been touched on time and again. Wouldn't have to have any real plane stuff, no discord aside from maybe a few mentions in NPC dialogue, no void, not a new planet or anything.. just a "new" land on Norrath to explore.

Vanisher123 wrote:

Eriol wrote:

As for expansion material, Taelosia OK, but please put in the north-west part of Kunark first please! This que . What the (@*@#"

Hopefully Sentinel's Fate will do that.

The "hardcore" Chrono fans are way beyond even anybody here in terms of research. It wasn't intended to be a hard and fast delineation between the content that does and doesn't count in EQ2; it's just there to give the devs some wiggle room, letting them freely pick and choose what bits of post-PoP EQlive lore they use. Just not before Velious!! The muramites (the bad guys from both GoD and OOW) would require the discord portal though.

The way it sounded to me is that Taelosia was there, we did go to it, we fought back/decimated the Muramite invasion force, and then sealed off the portal rather then going through it sword drawn like they did in Eq1.discord though still 'holding a grip on norrrath' might also explain the Rending tearing through the world after the gods left adn even tearing into their own planes...with thier withdraw the energy from Discord ripped thing up

And now - Priests of Discord exist on the PvP servers as PvP tutorial NPCs. But in both cases, you have expansions that didn't really capture the imagination of the user base.

Interestingly, both had the exact same complaint at that level:  "OMG Space aliens! I felt the same way recently, and tried to 3-box the GoD progression line with 85-90 Cleric, Ranger, Bard (heroic). We've seen our share of that in EQ2, but nothing as bad as the GoD mid-game changes. Our history in both timelines is the same. That's the devs responsibility. Though the gateway to the Realm of Discord was closed, its influence still holds Norrath in its grasp. Maybe by the gods leaving, it caused the gates to Discord to be closed before the Discordians could launch an all out attack.

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